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Tuesday, November 09, 2010
The US government doesn't Torture! Since When????
Written By FaithRMichaels
The UN council on Torture was told this:
"Let there be no doubt, the United States does not torture and it will not torture," Harold Hongju Koh, State Department legal adviser, told the UN council.
U.S. government does not Torture???
Since when???
Perhaps I am a little absent minded but I could have swore this happened.
I don't... do you?
The UN council on Torture was told this:
"Let there be no doubt, the United States does not torture and it will not torture," Harold Hongju Koh, State Department legal adviser, told the UN council.
U.S. government does not Torture???
Since when???
Perhaps I am a little absent minded but I could have swore this happened.
Torture, Cover-Up At Gitmo?
and This:
Lets not forget the Generals who took Cheney to task for torture and lets not forget Americas Political Prisoners
Lenard Peltier and others .
Did Harold Hongju Koh, State Department legal adviser really think anyone would believe that lie???I don't... do you?
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Cheney admits war crimes and the government sanctioned media is expectedly quite
By Faith-R-Michaels
2/16/2010
Jonathan Karl of ABC news "This Week" interviewed Dick Cheney on Valentines day.
Cheney admitted to being "The Man" who authorised Torture and harsh interrogation techniques that actually got one Terrorist free due to a unreliable "confession.
Not only did it allow a terrorist to go free... this torture did not produce one reliable piece of information ,caused the false raising of terror alerts and in my opinion actually made America more prone to attacks from Terrorists.
Cheney admits wanting harsher Techniques and was critical of Obama and his administration for actually following the Geneva Conventions outlawing of Torture and banning of the practise.
(I would like to note here that the Constitution that Cheney swore to uphold and defend when he took office also outlaws torture.)
Cheney admits that they had the justice departmental lawyers "fix" the law around his torture policies.
Not unexpectedly the mainstream media is quite and has not picked this up and ran with it. Obama has not had this man hauled to jail nor has he been indicted for War Crimes or treason.Obama just sits quietly by.
I have to note here that if it had been any other average American the media would not know how to shut up on this matter and the offending person would be in jail with America outraged.
But hey Cheney was a Vice President..(to be blunt a lying ass politician)and somehow the atrocities become "not so bad". So in America there is one set of laws for the rich and powerful and another for "We the People"
We the People cannot usually afford the PR campaigns to make crimes more acceptable to the consciousness of the many.
How the hell is this OK??? Are most Americans so narrow minded and small in heart that torture of a government declared enemy is OK as long as it doesn't happen to them or their loved ones?? Are they so naive and blind as to think that if they in power move the laws around to suite them that they can do this to any American they deem an enemy of the state? Are people so blind and whupped as to think that it would never happen to them or those they care about? Apparently so according to history. Isn't that what happened with Hitler and any other dictatorship? American solders have died and shed their blood to free people from this kind of tyranny and Americans turn their backs on this and act like it is nothing? Personally I am beyond outraged at the silence and the good ole boy mentality I see being practised here.
I just want you all to know that if this goes unchallenged then America is no longer the land of the free nor is it the home of the brave. It is instead the land of fascism and the home of the cowards and we might as well burn our Constitution for it will not have anyone left to stand and defend it.
Related Links
Cheney Admits to War Crimes, Media Yawns, Obama Turns the Other Cheek
Two Generals Take Cheney to Task for Torture
Does Dick Cheney Want to be Prosecuted?
2/16/2010
Jonathan Karl of ABC news "This Week" interviewed Dick Cheney on Valentines day.
Cheney admitted to being "The Man" who authorised Torture and harsh interrogation techniques that actually got one Terrorist free due to a unreliable "confession.
Not only did it allow a terrorist to go free... this torture did not produce one reliable piece of information ,caused the false raising of terror alerts and in my opinion actually made America more prone to attacks from Terrorists.
Cheney admits wanting harsher Techniques and was critical of Obama and his administration for actually following the Geneva Conventions outlawing of Torture and banning of the practise.
(I would like to note here that the Constitution that Cheney swore to uphold and defend when he took office also outlaws torture.)
Cheney admits that they had the justice departmental lawyers "fix" the law around his torture policies.
Not unexpectedly the mainstream media is quite and has not picked this up and ran with it. Obama has not had this man hauled to jail nor has he been indicted for War Crimes or treason.Obama just sits quietly by.
I have to note here that if it had been any other average American the media would not know how to shut up on this matter and the offending person would be in jail with America outraged.
But hey Cheney was a Vice President..(to be blunt a lying ass politician)and somehow the atrocities become "not so bad". So in America there is one set of laws for the rich and powerful and another for "We the People"
We the People cannot usually afford the PR campaigns to make crimes more acceptable to the consciousness of the many.
How the hell is this OK??? Are most Americans so narrow minded and small in heart that torture of a government declared enemy is OK as long as it doesn't happen to them or their loved ones?? Are they so naive and blind as to think that if they in power move the laws around to suite them that they can do this to any American they deem an enemy of the state? Are people so blind and whupped as to think that it would never happen to them or those they care about? Apparently so according to history. Isn't that what happened with Hitler and any other dictatorship? American solders have died and shed their blood to free people from this kind of tyranny and Americans turn their backs on this and act like it is nothing? Personally I am beyond outraged at the silence and the good ole boy mentality I see being practised here.
I just want you all to know that if this goes unchallenged then America is no longer the land of the free nor is it the home of the brave. It is instead the land of fascism and the home of the cowards and we might as well burn our Constitution for it will not have anyone left to stand and defend it.
Related Links
Cheney Admits to War Crimes, Media Yawns, Obama Turns the Other Cheek
Two Generals Take Cheney to Task for Torture
Does Dick Cheney Want to be Prosecuted?
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Tuesday, January 05, 2010
Governmental Conspiracies Paranoia? Maybe for a good reason
I know it's a lot of info... so bookmark this page or the site the info comes from and take your time. Read and think for yourself. I did this because quite often we who talk about 9/11 truth and government conspiracies are told we are paranoid and need meds.. We are told that our government doesn't do things like this and that we are delusional. Well just for fun I thought people should know what our government does with some of our tax money.
Lets see now... there are mind control experiments, secret societies, Internet control,psyops,sex abuse and more.
Much of this is listed under the title of non-lethal weapons. The name sounds harmless and quite good doesn't it?.
Is it?
Well you know the history of our CIA military complex so you tell me.
I looked around the world and wondered: All of this killing is authorized and done by people who claim to be devout Christians. Now why doesn't this bother people? It bothers me.
I wonder what would Jesus do?
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060123psyops
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/foia_mind_control/cia_sexual_abuse_mind_control
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol10pg#ciadocs
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolvideo
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolvideo
http://www.wanttoknow.info/nationbetrayed10pg
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mediacover-up
http://www.wanttoknow.info/051130ciasecrets
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/nov2009/db2009114_700374.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32760311
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050423secretgovernment
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/17-08/mf_haarp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMU7DHMpYc
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrollers10pg
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrollers10pg
http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m7d10-CBS-60-Minutes-300-death-claims-from-1976-swine-flu-vaccine-only-one-death-from-flu
I read through all of this stuff that is linked here and more, so everything I am going to reference to below is in one or more of those links above.
How do you feel about the equivalent of Keystone cops having this kind of power to influence how we look at things and how we respond? I find it kinda scary.
Also there are countries that have weapons that can disperse a protest.
This has been used already in Israel and in America.
They call it Scream.
The CIA has people in it who have been going on with these kind of terrorist agenda actions for a very long time and those in the CIA appear to have their own political agenda... so no matter who is president they get to keep on going with whatever their latest greatest program is. All of this is done under the guise of protecting America. From the looks of things they have been doing a whole lot of stuff "We the People" would never approve of.
The CIA has been involved for quite a few years in Yemen and damn near every other country in the world. Busy little suckers ain't they....Well after all war, murder, mind control, regime building and toppling, raping and pillaging IS a full time operation. All of this is done under the guise of protecting us.
The scary part of this is that these people actually believe this propaganda garbage.
People wonder why other people in the world hate us.DUH!!!
While I am not naive enough to think that if we "just talk to them it will all be goodie goddie...I do believe that there is another way that is along the moral high ground instead of becoming as bad if not worse than those who really do mean us harm.
I teach my children that if it is wrong for them to do it to you then it is wrong for you to do it to them. The bible teaches this. It is called the golden rule.
Those in government claim to be Christians so perhaps they could practice what they preach or claim to believe. Perhaps it would take a little Faith in what Jesus taught and while I know that that is asking alot either they are Christians or they are not. Calling themselves Christians does not make it so. Christians walk the talk, not talk the walk. Being proactive does not translate into act as badly as the enemy.
Then there is the health care business,hmmmm lets see.. who "owns" the Republican and Democrat parties? Oh look it is the insurance companies, weapons manufacturers, and such as that.
Oh and lets not forget how all the main members of government are involved in secret societies. It is something isn't it? I wonder what are the odds of so many presidents and so many of those running for president, and those in the highest offices in the land being from the same secret societies and often times descendants of those in the same secret societies..HMMMM what a coincidence.
After all of this government released documents and other info reported by mainstream media sources.(which the debunkers adore).... I cannot possibly imagine why anyone would believe in Conspiracy theories and shadow governments.
Can you?
So what can We the People do about this?
Well for starters we can demand that the president reign in the CIA and all of those alphabet(CIA,FBI,NSA) psychotic people who have stared so long in the mirror of enemies that they have become as bad if not worse than the ones they claim as enemies. (Personally they remind me of the KGB) Go read "A new strategy for America" then demand that our gov implement it.
some more related links:
The Military Complex is Ruining America
Nice work creating new terrorist you morons!
Lets see now... there are mind control experiments, secret societies, Internet control,psyops,sex abuse and more.
Much of this is listed under the title of non-lethal weapons. The name sounds harmless and quite good doesn't it?.
Is it?
Well you know the history of our CIA military complex so you tell me.
I looked around the world and wondered: All of this killing is authorized and done by people who claim to be devout Christians. Now why doesn't this bother people? It bothers me.
I wonder what would Jesus do?
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060123psyops
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/foia_mind_control/cia_sexual_abuse_mind_control
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol10pg#ciadocs
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolvideo
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolvideo
http://www.wanttoknow.info/nationbetrayed10pg
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mediacover-up
http://www.wanttoknow.info/051130ciasecrets
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/nov2009/db2009114_700374.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32760311
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050423secretgovernment
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/17-08/mf_haarp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMU7DHMpYc
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrollers10pg
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrollers10pg
http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m7d10-CBS-60-Minutes-300-death-claims-from-1976-swine-flu-vaccine-only-one-death-from-flu
I read through all of this stuff that is linked here and more, so everything I am going to reference to below is in one or more of those links above.
How do you feel about the equivalent of Keystone cops having this kind of power to influence how we look at things and how we respond? I find it kinda scary.
Also there are countries that have weapons that can disperse a protest.
This has been used already in Israel and in America.
They call it Scream.
The CIA has people in it who have been going on with these kind of terrorist agenda actions for a very long time and those in the CIA appear to have their own political agenda... so no matter who is president they get to keep on going with whatever their latest greatest program is. All of this is done under the guise of protecting America. From the looks of things they have been doing a whole lot of stuff "We the People" would never approve of.
The CIA has been involved for quite a few years in Yemen and damn near every other country in the world. Busy little suckers ain't they....Well after all war, murder, mind control, regime building and toppling, raping and pillaging IS a full time operation. All of this is done under the guise of protecting us.
The scary part of this is that these people actually believe this propaganda garbage.
People wonder why other people in the world hate us.DUH!!!
While I am not naive enough to think that if we "just talk to them it will all be goodie goddie...I do believe that there is another way that is along the moral high ground instead of becoming as bad if not worse than those who really do mean us harm.
I teach my children that if it is wrong for them to do it to you then it is wrong for you to do it to them. The bible teaches this. It is called the golden rule.
Those in government claim to be Christians so perhaps they could practice what they preach or claim to believe. Perhaps it would take a little Faith in what Jesus taught and while I know that that is asking alot either they are Christians or they are not. Calling themselves Christians does not make it so. Christians walk the talk, not talk the walk. Being proactive does not translate into act as badly as the enemy.
Then there is the health care business,hmmmm lets see.. who "owns" the Republican and Democrat parties? Oh look it is the insurance companies, weapons manufacturers, and such as that.
Oh and lets not forget how all the main members of government are involved in secret societies. It is something isn't it? I wonder what are the odds of so many presidents and so many of those running for president, and those in the highest offices in the land being from the same secret societies and often times descendants of those in the same secret societies..HMMMM what a coincidence.
After all of this government released documents and other info reported by mainstream media sources.(which the debunkers adore).... I cannot possibly imagine why anyone would believe in Conspiracy theories and shadow governments.
Can you?
So what can We the People do about this?
Well for starters we can demand that the president reign in the CIA and all of those alphabet(CIA,FBI,NSA) psychotic people who have stared so long in the mirror of enemies that they have become as bad if not worse than the ones they claim as enemies. (Personally they remind me of the KGB) Go read "A new strategy for America" then demand that our gov implement it.
some more related links:
The Military Complex is Ruining America
Nice work creating new terrorist you morons!
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Thursday, November 05, 2009
23 Americans,mostly CIA operatives convicted in Italy
23 Americans mostly CIA operatives are now fugitives abroad. This stunning landmark case case was begun after a kidnapping of a Muslim Cleric in 2003. The Cleric's name is Abu Omar. Abu Omar was kidnapped off the streets of Milan in broad daylight.
He was taken to two U.S. bases. One in Italy,one in Germany. From there Abu was taken to Egypt where they kept him and tortured him for four years before concluding that he was innocent. I say innocent because they could find no reason to keep him or charge him so they let him go.
I do not think Abu Omar is an isolated incident. I am sadly certain he is just one of many that this has happened to.
I have questions for our government. Doesn't this fall under the catagory of war crimes? Isn't our involvement in this a direct violation of the Geneva convention and our own Constitution? Are you people in charge of what our government does professing to be Christians?
The America I believe in does NOT do these kinds of things!
To read more about this go here
He was taken to two U.S. bases. One in Italy,one in Germany. From there Abu was taken to Egypt where they kept him and tortured him for four years before concluding that he was innocent. I say innocent because they could find no reason to keep him or charge him so they let him go.
I do not think Abu Omar is an isolated incident. I am sadly certain he is just one of many that this has happened to.
I have questions for our government. Doesn't this fall under the catagory of war crimes? Isn't our involvement in this a direct violation of the Geneva convention and our own Constitution? Are you people in charge of what our government does professing to be Christians?
The America I believe in does NOT do these kinds of things!
To read more about this go here
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Saturday, September 12, 2009
Two Generals Take Cheney to Task for Torture

Generals Charles C. Krulack and Joesph P. Hoar have spoken out denouncing Cheney and his torture rhetoric. The Generals understand that torture is wrong,that it is harmful to the United States and it's citizens, and makes us less safe in the world, so why didn't Cheney?
Excerpts from article:
"In an interview with Fox News Sunday, Cheney applauded the ``enhanced interrogation techniques'' -- what we used to call ``war crimes'' because they violated the Geneva Conventions, which the United States instigated and has followed for 60 years. Cheney insisted the abusive techniques were ``absolutely essential in saving thousands of American lives and preventing further attacks against the United States.'' He claimed they were ``directly responsible for the fact that for eight years, we had no further mass casualty attacks against the United States. It was good policy . . . It worked very, very well.''
Generals Charles C. Krulack and Joesph P. Hoar's response:
"Repeating these assertions doesn't make them true. We now see that the best intelligence, which led to the capture of Saddam Hussein and the elimination of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was produced by professional interrogations using non-coercive techniques. When the abuse began, prisoners told interrogators whatever they thought would make it stop."
"In the fear that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Americans were told that defeating Al Qaeda would require us to ``take off the gloves.'' As a former commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps and a retired commander-in-chief of U.S. Central Command, we knew that was a recipe for disaster."
Thank You Sirs!!!!!
It is time for the American People to reclaim what Bush ,Rumsfield and Cheney took from us. They tried to steal the Soul of this Country. Not because they were Republicans but because they are with-out conscious.
Once again;Thank You Generals Charles C. Krulack and Joesph P. Hoar ,
It is a good feeling to know that you stand by and honor your Oath to us and this country.
Fear was noexcuse to condone Torture
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Tuesday, August 25, 2009
Propaganda Fear Mongering Alert

Nine Senators have sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder stating that to investigate the CIA torture abuses would "invite another Terrorist attack".
When I got through muttering darkly about this garbage in writing the Senators dared to spout; I started writing.
click here to read article
Here are the nine who will become infamous for their propaganda fear mongering.
"The letter was sent to Holder by Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona, Sen. Kit Bond (R-Missouri), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Alabama), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and was also signed by Sens. Richard Burr (R-North Carolina), Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia), Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah)."
NOTICE THEY ARE ALL REPUBLICANS!
This CIA mess leads directly back to Bush and Cheny and since they are talking 9/11 I just bet that they are concerned this will lead to another investigation regarding 9/11.
This is also Party politics arse covering, head ducking.... for the Republicons know that if this mess implicates their party they will NEVER get re-elected.
Please let the Attorney General know that WE The People have had enough of this mess and if your Senator is in that list.... Tell them that YOU DEMAND an investigation into this CIA torture mess. Tell them to stop supporting anti-Constitution,anti-American War Criminals!
Contact the Department Of Justice
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Thursday, August 20, 2009
CIA Hit Squads
Well we have talked about it for a long time. Bloggers and People putting out YouTube Vids have been speaking loud for a long time regarding CIA hit squads while taking abuse from Dis-info agents and others.
WE have been soooo vindicated.
Proof is emerging that our government hired hit squads.
This time from a publicly accepted news source.
It seems that the inmates have been running the asylum.
It is finally coming out that our government has indeed been hijacked by factions within. This is the real reason we are hated in the world.
This is the song Presidents and others have been telling us the public for a long time now."Folks around the planet are "jealous or hate us for our way of life."
They have been saying that we are hated within the world just because Terrorist hate freedom and democracy.
They started the war on Terrorism (9/11 was an inside job) with this propaganda rhetoric and pointed the fingers at Al -Qaeda for 9/11. Now I am no fan of Al-Qaeda by any means, but to say they attack us and cause a threat to us because they hate freedom is ludicrous!
It seems to me that they hate what our shadow government has been doing in We The Peoples name.
Ron Paul is right.
Related links:
The making of a police state
What if the people wake up?
WE have been soooo vindicated.
Proof is emerging that our government hired hit squads.
This time from a publicly accepted news source.
It seems that the inmates have been running the asylum.
It is finally coming out that our government has indeed been hijacked by factions within. This is the real reason we are hated in the world.
This is the song Presidents and others have been telling us the public for a long time now."Folks around the planet are "jealous or hate us for our way of life."
They have been saying that we are hated within the world just because Terrorist hate freedom and democracy.
They started the war on Terrorism (9/11 was an inside job) with this propaganda rhetoric and pointed the fingers at Al -Qaeda for 9/11. Now I am no fan of Al-Qaeda by any means, but to say they attack us and cause a threat to us because they hate freedom is ludicrous!
It seems to me that they hate what our shadow government has been doing in We The Peoples name.
Ron Paul is right.
Related links:
The making of a police state
What if the people wake up?
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Friday, May 29, 2009
Ex CIA Agents Tell Their Stories
The CIA formed after World War 2 has been involved in it's own idea of keeping us safe ever since. Above is one in a series of vids where ex- CIA agents tell their stories. This is bone chilling and the vids are not for the squeamish.
What we have here is the shadow government of America involving our soldiers in abominations that the CIA claims makes us safe in the world.
I claim that they are the reason we are in peril in the world.
I claim that the CIA is the REAL reason we are hated in the world.
Using the age old adage the ends justify the means the CIA commits torture and assassinations all in the name of us WE The American People.
All of these horrors were/are done in the name of fighting Communism and these days the name of fighting Terrorists.
EVERYTHING the CIA has done has placed American citizens and soldiers in peril around the world.
Now I am sure they would argue that because of these deeds we are safer in the world today.They would say that Fear of retribution is the only way to remain safe in a world of cold bloodied people who would destroy everything we have worked as Americans to build. While I can understand this mentality I cannot agree with it and after all these years of run-amok CIA policies we are more in danger in the world than ever. I claim that the people who run the CIA have demented minds and their souls are lost judging by what these ex-agents are telling us.
The CIA was a good idea in the beginning but corruption has stolen it's soul.
It appears to have been taken over by some kind of fascist,power mad, demented people.
It seems that absolute power does indeed corrupt absolutely.
I would say their way of doing things is ineffective judging by what has and is going on in the world today.
I will also say that If these kinds of actions is what supposedly keeps me safe- I do not want it. Please do not kill anyone else or torture anyone else to keep me or mine "safe". I would rather die with honor than live in dishonor after trading my humanity away and damning my soul for a few extra years of life.
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Tuesday, May 26, 2009
They Will Come Speaking In My Name

I was visiting George Washintons blog. His blog is one of the blogs on "my blogs I follow" list ; I read an article on President Bush and Tony Blair regarding their beliefs on going to war in Iraq and the war on terror.Those two are justifying their abominable actions as "Gods will" -" a moral cause to bring on the apocalypse".
The more I read, the more outraged I became,at the pompous sociopath arrogance of those supposed "Christians" parading themselves around as "Gods Chosen" to do battle with the "EVIL" That would "come from the North" "and destroy Israel" unless stopped.
(here's a thought for ya:: we are now occupying Iraq which is North of Israel)
Here is another thought: What made those pompous arrogant sociopaths think that God meant for them to stop this "Evil from the north" with war?
How is it Ok to bring on 911 and declare a war on terror???????
How is it OK to torture people????
I am a student of the Bible and many other religious works around the globe. I have read the Bible from cover to cover many times and while my memory will not let me quote chapter and verse their is not ANYTHING in there that I do not have a good idea about what and where people are quoting from.
The statement that really got to me was this one,
"they were to bring on the apocalypse"
I thought about these wannabe Christians like G.W.Bush and T.Blair and thought about Jesus and his teachings.
I have a few questions.
Where does Jesus say in the Bible that it is OK to slaughter your enemies, invade countries,and use his name to do it in????
Where did Jesus say it was Ok to Kill in the name of God????
Where did Jesus say ANYTHING about war being OK??
Christians are followers of Jesus Christ and Jesus is universally accepted among Christians as THE CHRIST,"The only begotten son of God".
Last time I read Jesus's teachings THIS is what I read-
"They will come speaking in my name and say Lo, he is here or lo, he is there but pay them no heed for they be wolves in sheep's clothing, No man knows the hour that I cometh for that is determined by my Father which is in Heaven:"
(This is not an exact quote since I pull from memory but it is close enough)
Also Jesus said: "Love thy enemies,be good to them that spitefully curse and abuse you" Then there is this statement that Jesus said: "love thy neighbor as thyself",Jesus also said:"Turn the other cheek".
I believe the term "holy wars" is in direct conflict with these statements of Jesus.
Imagine! Christians in Jihad!
While Jesus did say that "he came not to bring peace but the sword" I feel quite confident in the presumption that Jesus did not appoint G.W.Bush or T.Blair or any other twisted mind to act in his name regarding this statement.
Jesus is claimed by the Christians to be "Gods Voice and instrument upon this Earth" and "God in the flesh".
Well it is clear to me that what Jesus taught was clearly about Gods love!!!!
According to Christian Beliefs,Jesus was sent here to show man the Correct way to honor God .
Jesus NEVER said ANYTHING about Killing others in Gods name as a way to spread Christian beliefs so that the world would be better off.
As a matter of fact Jesus told his disciples that they were to go town to town teaching and if that teaching was rejected then the disciples were told to not tarry there in that town but move on shaking the dust of that town from their feet.
Now there have been many people through-out time that have perverted the Bible to their own ends and used the Biblical Teachings to "act in the name of God" in an ungodly manner. These perverse Actions WERE CLEARLY SPOKE AGAINST AND CONDEMED BY JESUS!!!! Christian Beliefs say Jesus was THE WAYSHOWER .
NOWHERE IN THE WAY JESUS SHOWED WAS ANYTHING ABOUT KILLING BEING OK, NOR WAS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT WAR BEING OK IN GODS EYES!!!!
Popes,Kings,Queens and serial killers, have used the Bible to justify torture,burning at the stake,mass killings,wars,psychological torment,cruel punishing judgement,along with many other evils calling it "following Gods will" "destined by God" or some other unholy,irrational,sick minded,brain twisted,crap!!!!!!
Always these twisted ,sick minds have quoted Biblical scripture to back themselves up in a pathetic attempt to justify what they knew in their souls was wrong!!
(here is another quote from the bible:
"He who lives by the sword, Dies by the sword"
The Bible is full of beautiful words like these: "Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the Earth"
I do not know what part of the Bible these clearly demented minds called themselves reading, but it is crystal clear they conveniently ignored the many,many verses that spoke AGAINST KILLING!!
To those who would use the Bible to justify tormenting and or killing another soul on this earth in some crazy Christian Jihad quest, I have a question for you.
What Part of THOU SHALL NOT KILL did You not understand?????
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Sunday, May 03, 2009
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May 02, 2009
Five Things You Should Know About the Torture Memos
No. 1. I have read the 175 pages of legal memoranda (the memos) that the Department of Justice (DoJ) released last week. They consist of letters written by Bush DoJ officials to the Deputy General Counsel of the CIA concerning the techniques that may be used by American intelligence agents when interrogating high value detainees at facilities outside the U.S. The memos describe in vivid, gut-wrenching detail the procedures that the CIA apparently inquired about. The memos then proceed to authorize every procedure asked about, and to commend the CIA for taking the time to ask.
No. 2. In the process of explaining to the CIA Deputy General Counsel just what his folks could do in order to extract information from uncooperative detainees, it is immediately apparent that the writers of the memos are attempting to find snippets of language from other memoranda that they or their colleagues have prepared and from unrelated judicial opinions that justify everything that the CIA wants to do. "This is not rocket science and it is not art. Everyone knows torture when they see it."
The bias in favor of permitting torture may easily be concluded from a footnote in one of the memos. In that footnote, the author, now-federal judge Jay Bybee, declines to characterize such notorious medieval torture techniques as the thumbscrew and the rack as torture. With that incredible mindset, he proceeds to do his Orwellian best to define away such terms as pain, suffering, and inhumane in such a way as to require that the interrogators produce near death experiences in order to have their behavior come under the proscriptions of the federal statute prohibiting torture, and the Convention (treaty) Against Torture, which was negotiated by and signed in behalf of the U.S. by President George H.W. Bush.
No. 3. The logic in the memos is simple: The government may utilize the ten procedures inquired about (all of which were publicly known except confinement on a coffin, bound and gagged, and in the presence of insects), so long as no one dies or comes close to death. This conclusion is startling in the case of walling (banging a detainees head against a solid but moveable wall) and waterboarding (near drowning) since the federal governments own physicians, cited in the memos themselves, have concluded that both techniques are always a near occasion of death. The conclusion is also startling since it fails to account for numerous federal and state prosecutions, and prosecutions in Thailand — where these torture sessions apparently occurred — that have defined torture according to its generally accepted meaning:
Any intentionally inflicted cruel or inhumane or degrading treatment, unauthorized by a court of law, perpetrated for the punishment of the victim, to extract statements from the victim, or to gratify the perpetrator.
This universally-accepted definition makes no reference and has no condition that anything goes short of a near occasion of death.
No. 4. The memos also fail to account for the Geneva Conventions, which the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled govern American treatment of all foreign detainees, lawful or unlawful. The third of those conventions PROHIBITS TOUCHING the detainee in any way, other than for the purpose of moving him from place to place, if he refuses to go voluntarily and when told to do so.
No. 5. The memos place Attorney General Holder, who argued for their release, in an untenable situation. He has stated under oath, at his confirmation hearings, that waterboarding is torture and torture is prohibited by numerous federal laws. He has also taken an oath to uphold all federal laws, not just those that are politically expedient from time to time. He is correct and he must do his moral and legal duty to reject any Nuremberg defense. This is not rocket science and it is not art. Everyone knows torture when they see it; and no amount of twisted logic can detract from its illegal horror, its moral antipathy, and its attack at core American values.
By Judge Andrew Napolitano
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May 02, 2009
Five Things You Should Know About the Torture Memos
No. 1. I have read the 175 pages of legal memoranda (the memos) that the Department of Justice (DoJ) released last week. They consist of letters written by Bush DoJ officials to the Deputy General Counsel of the CIA concerning the techniques that may be used by American intelligence agents when interrogating high value detainees at facilities outside the U.S. The memos describe in vivid, gut-wrenching detail the procedures that the CIA apparently inquired about. The memos then proceed to authorize every procedure asked about, and to commend the CIA for taking the time to ask.
No. 2. In the process of explaining to the CIA Deputy General Counsel just what his folks could do in order to extract information from uncooperative detainees, it is immediately apparent that the writers of the memos are attempting to find snippets of language from other memoranda that they or their colleagues have prepared and from unrelated judicial opinions that justify everything that the CIA wants to do. "This is not rocket science and it is not art. Everyone knows torture when they see it."
The bias in favor of permitting torture may easily be concluded from a footnote in one of the memos. In that footnote, the author, now-federal judge Jay Bybee, declines to characterize such notorious medieval torture techniques as the thumbscrew and the rack as torture. With that incredible mindset, he proceeds to do his Orwellian best to define away such terms as pain, suffering, and inhumane in such a way as to require that the interrogators produce near death experiences in order to have their behavior come under the proscriptions of the federal statute prohibiting torture, and the Convention (treaty) Against Torture, which was negotiated by and signed in behalf of the U.S. by President George H.W. Bush.
No. 3. The logic in the memos is simple: The government may utilize the ten procedures inquired about (all of which were publicly known except confinement on a coffin, bound and gagged, and in the presence of insects), so long as no one dies or comes close to death. This conclusion is startling in the case of walling (banging a detainees head against a solid but moveable wall) and waterboarding (near drowning) since the federal governments own physicians, cited in the memos themselves, have concluded that both techniques are always a near occasion of death. The conclusion is also startling since it fails to account for numerous federal and state prosecutions, and prosecutions in Thailand — where these torture sessions apparently occurred — that have defined torture according to its generally accepted meaning:
Any intentionally inflicted cruel or inhumane or degrading treatment, unauthorized by a court of law, perpetrated for the punishment of the victim, to extract statements from the victim, or to gratify the perpetrator.
This universally-accepted definition makes no reference and has no condition that anything goes short of a near occasion of death.
No. 4. The memos also fail to account for the Geneva Conventions, which the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled govern American treatment of all foreign detainees, lawful or unlawful. The third of those conventions PROHIBITS TOUCHING the detainee in any way, other than for the purpose of moving him from place to place, if he refuses to go voluntarily and when told to do so.
No. 5. The memos place Attorney General Holder, who argued for their release, in an untenable situation. He has stated under oath, at his confirmation hearings, that waterboarding is torture and torture is prohibited by numerous federal laws. He has also taken an oath to uphold all federal laws, not just those that are politically expedient from time to time. He is correct and he must do his moral and legal duty to reject any Nuremberg defense. This is not rocket science and it is not art. Everyone knows torture when they see it; and no amount of twisted logic can detract from its illegal horror, its moral antipathy, and its attack at core American values.
By Judge Andrew Napolitano
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Music by: Trillion/Jody Lloyd
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